Comments on: Door To Door Magazine Sales, Scam? http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/ Blogger, Teacher and Database Administrator writing about technology and more. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:04:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: carly http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-127013 carly Sun, 09 May 2010 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-127013 I had someone trying to sell magazines today I'm in Colorado Springs but I was not in the mood to be bothered. Where we live we get about 2-4 salesmen a day and it gets really annoying so by the time I get to the 2nd salesmen I'm pissed. He seemed really nice but dirty or exhausted looking but I told him I'm not interested and he informed me that he might lose his job if he didn't make a sale and I looked at him like I don't give a S***. I was ripped off before by a door to door salesmen claiming to want to clean my carpet and then he ended up not wanting to leave my house until he convinced me to pay $1500 for a Kirby vacuum cleaner. After being taken advantage of I will never buy anything from a salesmen. Everyone consider yourselves lucky since magazines only cost about 20-90 dollars but the Kirby I paid for had payments that lasted over a year. Lets all learn from these mistakes and make wiser decisions next time no matter how convincing these people are. I will never buy from a salesmen and I put a sign on my door saying "No salesmen or Religious groups" and it says that we do not want to buy anything. Maybe some will be brave enough to act as if they didn't read it but I will give them a piece of my mind. I do feel really bad for how these young people are worked like slaves and bused all around the country but it's not my place to feel sorry for them and give away my hard earned money. I had someone trying to sell magazines today I’m in Colorado Springs but I was not in the mood to be bothered. Where we live we get about 2-4 salesmen a day and it gets really annoying so by the time I get to the 2nd salesmen I’m pissed. He seemed really nice but dirty or exhausted looking but I told him I’m not interested and he informed me that he might lose his job if he didn’t make a sale and I looked at him like I don’t give a S***. I was ripped off before by a door to door salesmen claiming to want to clean my carpet and then he ended up not wanting to leave my house until he convinced me to pay $1500 for a Kirby vacuum cleaner. After being taken advantage of I will never buy anything from a salesmen.

Everyone consider yourselves lucky since magazines only cost about 20-90 dollars but the Kirby I paid for had payments that lasted over a year. Lets all learn from these mistakes and make wiser decisions next time no matter how convincing these people are. I will never buy from a salesmen and I put a sign on my door saying “No salesmen or Religious groups” and it says that we do not want to buy anything. Maybe some will be brave enough to act as if they didn’t read it but I will give them a piece of my mind. I do feel really bad for how these young people are worked like slaves and bused all around the country but it’s not my place to feel sorry for them and give away my hard earned money.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-123343 Concerned Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:42:57 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-123343 I had a DSS salesman come by yesterday. I was feeling soft, so i heard him out. I was dumb enough to let him in my house because it was freezing outside. When I told him I couldn't afford the subscription, he got really pushy with me. He started carrying on about how I could just cancel my subscription within 3 days and he would still get his trip points so he could go to Mexico. He was definitely great at the emotional blackmail thing and really made me feel like sh**. I ordered it out of guilt. The second he left I noticed on my customer receipt in bold orange letters "I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE ORDER IS CANCELED FOR ANY REASON THAT THE SOLICITOR WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY CONTEST OR TRIP POINTS". In light of that, I'm pretty uneasy about what his motive was to push me into buying it yet encouraging me to cancel it. I also had no opportunity to see the receipt until after the sale was complete and he was gone. The receipt had the legal information on it, on which he FORGED both my initials and my signature. This is important for others to know. The part he forged my initials on states in short : "In the unlikely event that your check is returned for any reason (that would include if you place a stop payment order on your check) we will debit you checking account electronically for the amount of the check PLUS the fee of $30". On top of bold-faced lying to me about the cancellation policy, to top it off, if I did decide to keep the subscription I would probably never get it anyway. For my address he wrote down a completely illegible jumble of 2 different addresses, like he started to fill out the form for someone else and they changed their mind, and then just used the same form for me without even bothering to at least scribble out the old info. The city listed was the wrong city and the zip code was impossible to read. I have filled a formal complaint with the company and plan to file complaints with the BBB. I had a DSS salesman come by yesterday. I was feeling soft, so i heard him out. I was dumb enough to let him in my house because it was freezing outside. When I told him I couldn’t afford the subscription, he got really pushy with me. He started carrying on about how I could just cancel my subscription within 3 days and he would still get his trip points so he could go to Mexico. He was definitely great at the emotional blackmail thing and really made me feel like sh**. I ordered it out of guilt. The second he left I noticed on my customer receipt in bold orange letters “I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THE ORDER IS CANCELED FOR ANY REASON THAT THE SOLICITOR WILL NOT RECEIVE ANY CONTEST OR TRIP POINTS”. In light of that, I’m pretty uneasy about what his motive was to push me into buying it yet encouraging me to cancel it. I also had no opportunity to see the receipt until after the sale was complete and he was gone. The receipt had the legal information on it, on which he FORGED both my initials and my signature. This is important for others to know. The part he forged my initials on states in short :

“In the unlikely event that your check is returned for any reason (that would include if you place a stop payment order on your check) we will debit you checking account electronically for the amount of the check PLUS the fee of $30″.

On top of bold-faced lying to me about the cancellation policy, to top it off, if I did decide to keep the subscription I would probably never get it anyway. For my address he wrote down a completely illegible jumble of 2 different addresses, like he started to fill out the form for someone else and they changed their mind, and then just used the same form for me without even bothering to at least scribble out the old info. The city listed was the wrong city and the zip code was impossible to read. I have filled a formal complaint with the company and plan to file complaints with the BBB.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-123305 Kevin Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:14:39 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-123305 I live in VA. I just had a woman come to my door with the points/magazine thing. She said if she won she would win a trip to the moon..that's when I said bullshit and shut the door in her face. Funniest one I've heard yet. I get these people several times a year. I live in VA. I just had a woman come to my door with the points/magazine thing. She said if she won she would win a trip to the moon..that’s when I said bullshit and shut the door in her face. Funniest one I’ve heard yet. I get these people several times a year.

]]> By: Lindsey http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-123254 Lindsey Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:16:10 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-123254 well you see robert said it nicely. you people are obviously STUPID. I have worked for Will and am currently taking a break. I have made some of the best friends and had some of the most fun times ever in my life while working for him. At ACE your part of a family and treated with respect, unless you do something to harm another or steal then you are sent home!! the BS about slave labor is just ridiculous. Will has never treated me like anything less than a daughter and would go out of his way to help me which he has already. This company teaches work ethic to people who dont have any. It changed my life for the better. There are crews that are out there to scam you so why not dog them all over the net instead of ACE? half the comments about Will and his company are probably just from managers that cant even keep up! Not from a "scammed customer" oh and the trip is real, i've been on it, TWICE. well you see robert said it nicely. you people are obviously STUPID. I have worked for Will and am currently taking a break. I have made some of the best friends and had some of the most fun times ever in my life while working for him. At ACE your part of a family and treated with respect, unless you do something to harm another or steal then you are sent home!! the BS about slave labor is just ridiculous. Will has never treated me like anything less than a daughter and would go out of his way to help me which he has already. This company teaches work ethic to people who dont have any. It changed my life for the better.
There are crews that are out there to scam you so why not dog them all over the net instead of ACE? half the comments about Will and his company are probably just from managers that cant even keep up! Not from a “scammed customer”
oh and the trip is real, i’ve been on it, TWICE.

]]> By: robert p http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-3/#comment-123153 robert p Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:52:03 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-123153 Some of the comments on here are outright ignorant. But hey, i guess thats what makes the world go round. I work for will at ace and have for 3 years. i have also worked with other mag companies. I'm with ace for a reason. You there that says you have been in the biz 17 years, If you had you would know will and certainly would know how and where to reach him. Your a liar who is just such a loser that THIS is all you have to do.......... and the other one that said " mag companies are only required to clear 70% of the sales " YOOOUUUUU are a thief!!!!!!!!!!! Where did u learn such an ignorant thing???? are you really saying that you think you can take a customers money and toss 30% of these customers orders in the trash???? HEY LADYJANE, its people like THAT who are giving the business a bad rap!!!!!! But i notice u didn't mention that...... hum, maybe because thats how you do it to... what happend??? one of the thief's will fired for thinking they could keep 30% of the sales come to your b.s. crew complaining about my boss putting them out of here???? But when the weak a** leaves ur group talking smack about you and ur group its different???? Get a life!!!! My boss has been in this business more than 20 years and is a loyal, kind, caring man and the people who work with him love him... its like anything else.. when a person gets caught doing something bad, they get fired and they go elsewhere spreading lies. then of-course people like you continue to spread them. and last, for the person who found a paper who also clearly works at a hotel....... i was on that crew of the date of your post. ( wink) "he and that lady " ARE NOT Will Ferrell....... those are the Gm's that your speaking of.... and BOTH the gm and Mr. Ferrell drive black escalades ( like i said, spreading b.s. ) you people should be ashamed. especially you hotel lady.... you see something which your not familiar with and start making assumptions??? no ma'am, what i wouldn't want my kids doing is cleaning rooms in a hotel!!!!! LOSER!!!!! GET A BUNCH !!!!! Some of the comments on here are outright ignorant. But hey, i guess thats what makes the world go round. I work for will at ace and have for 3 years. i have also worked with other mag companies. I’m with ace for a reason. You there that says you have been in the biz 17 years, If you had you would know will and certainly would know how and where to reach him. Your a liar who is just such a loser that THIS is all you have to do………. and the other one that said ” mag companies are only required to clear 70% of the sales ” YOOOUUUUU are a thief!!!!!!!!!!! Where did u learn such an ignorant thing???? are you really saying that you think you can take a customers money and toss 30% of these customers orders in the trash???? HEY LADYJANE, its people like THAT who are giving the business a bad rap!!!!!! But i notice u didn’t mention that…… hum, maybe because thats how you do it to… what happend??? one of the thief’s will fired for thinking they could keep 30% of the sales come to your b.s. crew complaining about my boss putting them out of here???? But when the weak a** leaves ur group talking smack about you and ur group its different???? Get a life!!!! My boss has been in this business more than 20 years and is a loyal, kind, caring man and the people who work with him love him… its like anything else.. when a person gets caught doing something bad, they get fired and they go elsewhere spreading lies. then of-course people like you continue to spread them. and last, for the person who found a paper who also clearly works at a hotel……. i was on that crew of the date of your post. ( wink) “he and that lady ” ARE NOT Will Ferrell……. those are the Gm’s that your speaking of…. and BOTH the gm and Mr. Ferrell drive black escalades ( like i said, spreading b.s. ) you people should be ashamed. especially you hotel lady…. you see something which your not familiar with and start making assumptions??? no ma’am, what i wouldn’t want my kids doing is cleaning rooms in a hotel!!!!! LOSER!!!!! GET A BUNCH !!!!!

]]> By: WILL FERRELL http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-2/#comment-122928 WILL FERRELL Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:33:58 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-122928 ok folks, i am will, are u people just bored???? i am, which is how i ran into ur site... whoever u r up there that is "looking for me" call the office. im not hard to find... u with the refund, call the office. not sure why u haven't gotten ur refund. its a large company. things happen, incompetent secretaries etc..... and u with the "bad crew"...... thats a joke. i came up under a sorry, slimy manager. my sales teams are treated with respect, paid very well, receive all they have coming and then some. and as far as the sale pitch left somewhere on a paper???????? people in any sales job are taught a basic approach.. give it a break. .......... yep, i run a bad outfit. anybody that works for ace who has been with any of u other groups say this is the only place they have ever been paid....we drug test and if one is dirty they are put on a bus, same with stealing... so any agent thats had bad to say about me, ace or any manager here was a druggie or a thief....so ladyjane, call me. 219-873-3010 ill talk to you ok folks, i am will, are u people just bored???? i am, which is how i ran into ur site… whoever u r up there that is “looking for me” call the office. im not hard to find… u with the refund, call the office. not sure why u haven’t gotten ur refund. its a large company. things happen, incompetent secretaries etc….. and u with the “bad crew”…… thats a joke. i came up under a sorry, slimy manager. my sales teams are treated with respect, paid very well, receive all they have coming and then some. and as far as the sale pitch left somewhere on a paper???????? people in any sales job are taught a basic approach.. give it a break. ………. yep, i run a bad outfit. anybody that works for ace who has been with any of u other groups say this is the only place they have ever been paid….we drug test and if one is dirty they are put on a bus, same with stealing… so any agent thats had bad to say about me, ace or any manager here was a druggie or a thief….so ladyjane, call me. 219-873-3010 ill talk to you

]]> By: Aaron http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-2/#comment-122922 Aaron Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:01:46 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-122922 They're in Fredericksburg, VA. Last night at about 8 pm some punk who said he was 25 knocked on my door. Tried to sell me and my wife some magazines. He told us the same stories that everyone else has mentioned above. About the points and getting a trip to London and he would send us a post card. We were like we don't want a post card. He said if we didn't want to buy magazine's we could donate money for books to be sent to children's hospitals. When we refused that he got really upset and asked if we didn't like kids. It didn't feel right the entire time but once he made the comment about kids I knew it wasn't legit. He even bragged about all the magazine's he had sold to my neighbors showing me an envelope full of cash and checks. I'll talk to my neighbors about it soon. They’re in Fredericksburg, VA. Last night at about 8 pm some punk who said he was 25 knocked on my door. Tried to sell me and my wife some magazines. He told us the same stories that everyone else has mentioned above. About the points and getting a trip to London and he would send us a post card. We were like we don’t want a post card. He said if we didn’t want to buy magazine’s we could donate money for books to be sent to children’s hospitals. When we refused that he got really upset and asked if we didn’t like kids. It didn’t feel right the entire time but once he made the comment about kids I knew it wasn’t legit. He even bragged about all the magazine’s he had sold to my neighbors showing me an envelope full of cash and checks. I’ll talk to my neighbors about it soon.

]]> By: C. http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-2/#comment-121570 C. Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:07:50 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-121570 Just came to my house. Very enthusuastic and full of cheesy jokes. She wouldn't tell me what they were selling though. I asked 3 times and finally she got to her spiel about going to Italy and being in a contest. She said she would take me with her. Whatever. I knew it was crap but felt sorry for anyone that fell for it. We have a bunch of elderly folks on my street and I hope they didn't fall for it. Just came to my house. Very enthusuastic and full of cheesy jokes. She wouldn’t tell me what they were selling though. I asked 3 times and finally she got to her spiel about going to Italy and being in a contest. She said she would take me with her. Whatever. I knew it was crap but felt sorry for anyone that fell for it. We have a bunch of elderly folks on my street and I hope they didn’t fall for it.

]]> By: A.C.E-"CULT"??? WILLAM FARRELL http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-2/#comment-119682 A.C.E-"CULT"??? WILLAM FARRELL Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:05:06 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-119682 TO ALL THE PARENTS WHOS CHILD WANTS TO GO PURSUE THIS MAGAZINE THING, IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILD KEEP THEM CLOSE TO YOU JUST WITNESSING THE WAY THIS MAN AND WOMAN TREATED THESE KIDS, YOU WOULD NOT WANT ANYONE TREATING YOUR CHILD LIKE A SLAVE... THE WILL FARRELL CREW I BELIEVE THEY DRIVE A BLACK ESCALADE.. STAND CLEAR THEY ARE NOOOO GOOD!!!!! TO ALL THE PARENTS WHOS CHILD WANTS TO GO PURSUE THIS MAGAZINE THING, IF YOU LOVE YOUR CHILD KEEP THEM CLOSE TO YOU
JUST WITNESSING THE WAY THIS MAN AND WOMAN TREATED THESE KIDS, YOU WOULD NOT
WANT ANYONE TREATING YOUR CHILD LIKE A SLAVE… THE WILL FARRELL CREW I BELIEVE THEY DRIVE A BLACK ESCALADE.. STAND
CLEAR THEY ARE NOOOO GOOD!!!!!

]]> By: A.C.E-"CULT"??? WILLAM FARRELL http://www.imjosh.com/2006/07/12/door-to-door-magazine-sales-scam/comment-page-2/#comment-119681 A.C.E-"CULT"??? WILLAM FARRELL Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:01:22 +0000 http://www.imjosh.com/?p=380#comment-119681 OHH & TO EVERYONE WHO IS WONDERING, THEY ALSO LEFT BEHIND THEIR PAPER THAT SAYS "HOW TO MAKE A SELL" AND IT CLEARLY STATES HI MY NAME IS______ I AM IN A COMPETION I HAVE TO GET SUCH AND SUCH VOTES TO WIN A TRIP (SMILE) BUT THERES A CATCH , YOU HAVE TO ASK ME WHAT THE CATCH IS ( WAIT FOR THEM TO ASK YOU) ........... LOL IT WENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OHH & TO EVERYONE WHO IS WONDERING, THEY ALSO LEFT BEHIND THEIR PAPER THAT SAYS “HOW TO MAKE
A SELL” AND IT CLEARLY STATES HI MY NAME IS______ I AM IN A COMPETION I HAVE TO GET SUCH AND SUCH VOTES
TO WIN A TRIP (SMILE) BUT THERES A CATCH , YOU HAVE TO ASK ME WHAT THE CATCH IS ( WAIT FOR THEM
TO ASK YOU) ……….. LOL IT WENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

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